View Poll Results: What mapping software do you use? (multi select enabled)

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  • Raster (bought) [e.g. Photoshop, PaintShopPro, Painter]

    726 53.34%
  • Raster (free) [e.g. GIMP]

    547 40.19%
  • Vector (bought) [e.g. Illustrator, Corel Draw, Xara]

    303 22.26%
  • Vector (free) [e.g. Inkscape]

    265 19.47%
  • Vector (Symbol driven) [e.g. CC, Dunjinni]

    329 24.17%
  • Online Generator [e.g. City Map Generator, Fractal World Generator]

    115 8.45%
  • Fractal Generator [e.g. Fractal Terrains]

    188 13.81%
  • 3d modelling [e.g. Bryce, Vue Infinite, Blender]

    169 12.42%
  • Scanned hand drawn maps

    452 33.21%
  • Drawing Tablet and pen [e.g. Wacom]

    384 28.21%
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    Quote Originally Posted by dormouse View Post
    ...I was pointed to ViewingDale as a mapmaker (though I'm certainly not convinced it is one really)
    and w.r.t ViewingDale...
    Quote Originally Posted by dormouse View Post
    ...I haven't spent much time looking at it.
    These statements don't really tally up to the assertion that your not prejudiced. I hope you try it and like it but I get the feeling that its not going to come off well no matter what. Your convinced its not a map maker when I have been submitting maps for over a year here and just posted one up from the live cam footage of me making it. Is the image not a map ? I dunno - I would have said it was. All the icons used in it are either shipped with the box set, ones which I have posted on these forums, there's the Devin goblin and a few Kimmo's characters and the tree & toadstool are downloads from the supplemental icons off the web page. I.e. nothing in that image is using icons which are not readily available and free if not as part of the box set so anyone could have done that with it.

    I deliberately made it to look like this one on RPG Map Share
    http://rpgmapshare.com/index.php?q=g...g2_itemId=8484
    http://rpgmapshare.com/index.php?q=g...g2_itemId=8488
    which I did years ago and its been well received with a high vote mark - even by Dorpond of MT. I think anyone can see that these maps could have been created in about an hour or maybe a lot less. Oh I just don't know what else I can say really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redrobes View Post
    These statements don't really tally up to the assertion that your not prejudiced. I hope you try it and like it but I get the feeling that its not going to come off well no matter what. Your convinced its not a map maker
    Well, you're the one who said
    Quote Originally Posted by Redrobes View Post
    This is what makes me feel a little daunted by the comparison with all the mapping ability. If you try to force the app to make the maps like the others then it probably wont come off as good.
    and I didn't say I am convinced it is not a map maker, I said I was not convinced that it was. As far as I can see from brief look, it is a combination of a VTT, a map browser that can be shared between users and a mapmaker. Just as MapTools is primarily a VTT that also has the ability to make maps. And on your website, you describe it as "a new software application suite for your PC. It is a browser and editor for maps targeted at the fictional maps used with role playing games." Given that I said I was going to look at programs as they make maps (as opposed to any other function they have), what am I to make of the statement
    Quote Originally Posted by Redrobes View Post
    If you try to force the app to make the maps like the others then it probably wont come off as good
    ?

    And why should the fact that I have only spent a small amount of time looking at VD suggest prejudice? I've already said that I expect each program to take me approximately a month to work through. And I've not really looked at CC3 at all yet. Does
    that mean I'm prejudiced against it? What it does mean is that I don't feel in a position to have my own opinions as yet.

    I'm pretty experienced at examining things for what they are and making the most out of software programs. Sometimes the program makes it hard or impossible to do something, sometimes the way it does it is not the way you prefer (the difference between keyboard and mouse users is one of the most common); the first is a factor in the utility of the product, the second a factor in the suitability of the product for particular users. I would expect to look for both types of issue.

    In practice, I suspect that all the programs can be made to produce all the maps fairly identically (though 2 - DungeonForge and, from what you say, ViewingDale - will need some work to be done in another program); it will mainly be a matter of how easily and how quickly they do it.
    Last edited by dormouse; 05-01-2009 at 10:23 AM.

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